Comic 1749 - Expectations

25th May 2022, 12:00 AM
Average Rating: 5 (10 votes)
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Sleel 25th May 2022, 12:15 AM edit delete reply

I would have no problems seeing if bouncing counts as learning to fly.
Lurker314 25th May 2022, 8:34 AM edit delete reply
"It doesn't."
"Ahh. Not so well, then."
Ryu Santos 25th May 2022, 12:30 AM edit delete reply
Very nice shuttle indeed. I have a feeling that Coburn is going to start an interspecies/international incident with

And throwing Coburn off the roof has my stamp of approval..
JacobJSebastian 25th May 2022, 12:47 AM edit delete reply

some of us would have LOVED some subtitles in that first panel... :-P
Scia 25th May 2022, 10:18 PM edit delete reply
I got a translation (with a little help from a cryptogram solver to get me going).

Pilot: I find myself hoping that the humans' identification is mistaken, but I fear the worst.
Ship(?): Agreed. Making final approach now.
Pilot: Acknowledged.
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 10:20 PM edit delete reply
Awesome. Well done and thank you.
Scia 26th May 2022, 7:28 AM edit delete reply
You're welcome. I read a lot of webcomics, play a lot of games, and such, and decoding this stuff is always fun. =3

(I took a shortcut this time since it looked small-and-complicated, and I have less time than I used to. ^_^;; I probably still could've done it all myself with enough time and effort, though. =)
Tokyo Rose 26th May 2022, 4:00 PM edit delete reply

I'm suddenly glad that I actually wrote out the exchange, rather than copying a random text string or just rolling my face over the keyboard to produce pretty-looking symbol groups.
Centcomm 27th May 2022, 12:09 AM edit delete reply

How even what?
Evervigilant 25th May 2022, 1:05 AM edit delete reply
Hmmmmm my Google translate does not seem to be working on that first panel.
Centcomm 25th May 2022, 1:03 PM edit delete reply

i would be disappointed if it did
megados 25th May 2022, 5:31 PM edit delete reply

I notice, though, that in the last panel, even the shuttle sound has an Epiphytic accent! :D
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 2:27 AM edit delete reply
Give me a roof to stand on and a sufficiently long leaf-er and I can move the world. ^_^
Just_IDD 25th May 2022, 6:26 AM edit delete reply
Give me a roof to stand on, a vine attached to that roof, and I'll play Tarzan all day.
megados 25th May 2022, 6:36 AM edit delete reply

If you had a vine attached to *that roof*, wouldn't you just go >SPLAT!< against the side of the building?
Some Ed 25th May 2022, 8:56 AM edit delete reply
Assuming a sufficiently tough vine that it won't break and a sufficiently strong grip on said vine, I see several possible outcomes.

1. It's not that different from jumping off the roof normally, except for a brief almost stop in which the person dislocates one or more shoulders before letting go.

2. Miscalculation on the length of vine, and it's just a normal jump off the roof, except for the clutching of the vine uselessly.

3. With sufficient horizontal momentum and the expected attachment point, swing out, swing back smack into the building.

4. With sufficient horizontal momentum and the ideal attachment point, swing out, swing back, slide along the side of the building and really hope it's not a brick ("cheese grater") or wood outer wall. Though thinking about that, metal splinters can also be really bad. Also, unless the building is lubricated somehow, it's probable the friction will cause one to spin, possibly enough to lose ones grip. But even if grip is retained, momentum won't be, as the energy to spin had to come from somewhere, and the vine will do its best to dampen that spin.

None of those options seem to be like what I'd expect one to mean by "play Tarzan all day".

On the other hand, I could be making this too hard.

Just_IDD *didn't* say a roof to jump off. They could be meaning that they're just going to be standing there in their Tarzan outfit holding a vine seemingly failing badly at yodelling. So long as I don't have to be in earshot, I think I don't have a problem with this option.
Just_IDD 27th May 2022, 3:21 AM edit delete reply
I could drape the vine over the edge of the building and Rappel down and use the fine for climbing up and down the building and also running along the walls. If you're at the end of the vine when you're start running around on the wall then you can just run around on the wall and you never hit harder than you jumped off
Just_IDD 27th May 2022, 3:18 AM edit delete reply
Spiderman doesn't.
megados 27th May 2022, 5:10 AM edit delete reply

Spiderman ≠ Tarzan :D
megados 25th May 2022, 5:00 AM edit delete reply

Re: Alt text, What *I* think of Coburn isn't as important, as what the Epiphytes think. I just hope that whoever they sent has enough experience with humans to know that Coburn is sort of an outlier.
Rocket Fueled 25th May 2022, 7:25 AM edit delete reply

With their world view, wouldn't she come across as somewhat insane? Of course, perhaps all humans come across a little in that direction...
megados 25th May 2022, 12:28 PM edit delete reply

I don't know a lot of their world view, but I suspect they have a general opinion about humans, but I kind of think they might recognize Coburn as an outlier. They strike me as being quite perceptive. :)
Haegan2005 25th May 2022, 6:03 PM edit delete reply

I think the real issue is that they will detect empathy from one of the two and annoyance from the other. Amongst other things, of course.

Note that this is my opinion and only my opinion, but it feels right.
Scia 25th May 2022, 8:23 PM edit delete reply
I'm not sure if they have emphatic abilities - they might be able to pick up on thoughts, but not emotions. Still, I'd think annoyance might come from BOTH - just only one might have aimed at the Epyphites.

Hmm... I was speculating on whether they could block out certain thoughts, or sources of thoughts. But if so, they wouldn't have needed to send a psychic null to deal with Deck. Or needed someone particularto help with that one incident...
Rocket Fueled 25th May 2022, 7:29 AM edit delete reply

@ JacobJSebastian Yes, some of use would have like subtitles. :) Also, if they're telepathic, then who are they talking to that would cause the need to use vocal language?

Some of us also noted with interest that at least one screen in their shuttle was showing English. Perhaps a beacon display from New Troy ATC?
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 7:53 AM edit delete reply
I may be mistaken, @Rocket, but if you are talking about the big red “ALERT” sign, I think that is actually some kind of billboard from the exterior street seen through the viewport of the Epiphyte shuttle on its approach.
Rocket Fueled 25th May 2022, 7:57 AM edit delete reply

Ah! I see it now. Yes, I was talking about the "ALERT" display. At first look, it seemed to be a floating display in the cockpit, but after looking again, I agree with your billboard idea.
Centcomm 25th May 2022, 12:59 PM edit delete reply

Yes its a bilboard
Some Ed 25th May 2022, 9:01 AM edit delete reply
They could be talking to

- Their computer.

- Someone on the other side of a comm link.

- Someone who is telepathically impaired.

- Their robot friend.

- Maybe there are multiple telepathy dialects and using a spoken language helps bridge the divide.

- Maybe they're performing vocal warm-ups, knowing they'll need to be communicating with the non-telepathic shortly.

Maybe they like the sound of their voices?
Ictuan 25th May 2022, 5:02 PM edit delete reply
Maybe the artist needed a way to convey telepathic "language" in a way we could understand.
Tokyo Rose 26th May 2022, 4:05 PM edit delete reply

Ictuan nailed it pretty squarely. Almost all Epiphyte tech has telepathic capability, but telepathic conversations are not easy to convey in visual format...
Scia 25th May 2022, 8:27 PM edit delete reply
- Maybe they're a psychic null, like the rep specifically sent to talk with Deck.

- Maybe telepathic tech is hard to come by, even for Epyphites.

- Maybe they're hesitant to use telepathic tech after something that happened...
Scia 25th May 2022, 10:21 PM edit delete reply
Okay, I managed a translation (see my reply to JacobJSebastian near the top), and it looks like it's probably a smart computer - the brain of the ship.
Old Fart 25th May 2022, 7:35 AM edit delete reply
What would be funny is if the Epiphytes strongly suggest Coburn join then on a return to Luna to greet the new ambassador and explain why the Medical procedures were done.
Rocket Fueled 25th May 2022, 7:59 AM edit delete reply

Why would the Epiphytes knowingly do that to themselves? 😄
Centcomm 25th May 2022, 1:02 PM edit delete reply

owwwch poor epips
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 8:02 AM edit delete reply
Minor nit: In the final panel, the positioning of the two word balloons suggest the camera is placed between the two ladies and seeing a profile of the Epiphyte shuttle. But the previous frame clearly shows the shuttle approaching the ladies head-on. I suspect it was done this way to lend balance to the composition of the ‘shot’, but it was a little disorienting when I was trying to picture the overall arrangement.
Some Ed 25th May 2022, 9:03 AM edit delete reply
It doesn't have forward thrusters, so it's turning around to slow down.
megados 25th May 2022, 9:15 AM edit delete reply

It looks more like a 90° change of camera angle, going by the lighting direction and skyline view change.
The word balloon positions still retain their relationship to one another to try to keep track of who said what.
Rocket Fueled 25th May 2022, 9:28 AM edit delete reply

I have to agree with @megados here, it's a 90° change of camera angle. Also, if you compare the two panels showing the exterior of the shuttle, you'll note side thrusters seem to be shown at different angles between the two panels. I suggest those two can swivel forward and back.
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 9:47 AM edit delete reply
I am pretty sure there are three thrusters on the shuttle: two ‘wings’ on either side, with comparatively thin struts connecting them to the main body, and a third ‘tail’ thruster, with a thicker, more integral connection to the fuselage. It is just that, in both shots, one thruster is concealed by the shuttle’s main body each time.
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 9:45 AM edit delete reply
I agree that the skyline suggests a camera change, rather than a shuttle aspect change. But one thing on which we can all agree: It is a pretty shuttle. ^_^
Centcomm 25th May 2022, 1:01 PM edit delete reply

the change in camera angle was just me being artsy
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 1:21 PM edit delete reply
I like the change in camera angle. It gives us a different view of the shuttle, a more interesting skyline than the approach shot, etc. I just think, clunky as it might have been, pushing the shuttle a bit to one side of center and having both word balloons coming from the same edge might have worked just as well.

Your comic, your story, your way. I am just sharing my opinion in the spirit of 'feedback'.
wright1 25th May 2022, 9:25 AM edit delete reply
One more vote for Val testing Coburn's freefall aerodynamics under field conditions.

Nice work on the shuttle: a convincingly alien yet still pleasing aesthetic.
Centcomm 25th May 2022, 1:01 PM edit delete reply

Microraptor 25th May 2022, 11:27 AM edit delete reply

Coburn: "However, I would have expected the shuttle to look more like a flower pot or something."
Valorian: *facepalm*
megados 25th May 2022, 11:42 AM edit delete reply

Literal LOL XD
Centcomm 25th May 2022, 1:02 PM edit delete reply

Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 1:22 PM edit delete reply
A seedpod. Carrying genetic material out to mingle with that of other ... oh, wait. That is the NSFW version of Datachasers. ^_^
Haegan2005 25th May 2022, 6:01 PM edit delete reply

Well planted! Now I am having to imagine Epiphyte Porn. Does it really have the birds and the bees in it? ;)
Gilrandir 25th May 2022, 7:46 PM edit delete reply
Beetles. The Epiphytes are an old race … before bees evolved. Like Magnolia flowers, they use specialized beetles for pollination.
Centcomm 25th May 2022, 10:02 PM edit delete reply

Epiphyte hands another a fruit.. Here eat this and procreate. we will have many seeds...
Tokyo Rose 26th May 2022, 4:06 PM edit delete reply

So, Cent, you're thinking kinda like that one Swamp Thing arc :D
Centcomm 26th May 2022, 5:00 PM edit delete reply

yes! fun No?
Centcomm 27th May 2022, 12:11 AM edit delete reply

brings a whole new meaning to the statement "EAT ME!"
Rashala 25th May 2022, 11:31 PM edit delete reply

I see this going off the rails so. Any many ways with these two
Bookwyrm 26th May 2022, 4:53 PM edit delete reply
Third panel won’t load on my ipad. Can somebody translate?
Demarquis 26th May 2022, 6:08 PM edit delete reply
I'm still on Coburn's side. From the previous page:

""How do you know they are her family?"

Because an official representative of the Epiphyte government, using valid ID codes, so stated."

[!!!] "And you couldn't put that in writing because?"


"Are you the only one who is allowed to know this?"

Though I am not supporting her speciesist attitudes.
Gilrandir 26th May 2022, 11:02 PM edit delete reply
“Because putting it in writing isn’t part of my job. Solving homicides is my job. Getting it in writing — as the designated official representative of the bureaucracy — is your job. Or else, why are you up on this roof?”
gmg2dave 26th May 2022, 10:33 PM edit delete reply

I have no doubt that Coburn would do well with an impromptu flight test. I am rather more curious as to her ability to [b]LAND[b] after said flight test. Speaking from personal experience, that is the part we humans tend to have the most problems with. Cursed gravity!
Gilrandir 26th May 2022, 10:59 PM edit delete reply
I am becoming concerned about how many people seem to think that Being Annoying ought to be a capital crime. (Note To Self: Ask if someone is a DataChasers fan before going up on a roof with them.)
Centcomm 27th May 2022, 12:07 AM edit delete reply

the thing is Andrea would never do it. she might think abouyt it but she would not hurt someone like that
Gilrandir 27th May 2022, 3:15 AM edit delete reply
Of course not. It is clear that Andrea is indulging in stray thoughts to while away the time while awaiting the arrival of the Epiphyte representatives, not serious contemplation of the possibility.
Centcomm 27th May 2022, 12:07 AM edit delete reply

everyone can land.. once
Thracecius 27th May 2022, 10:52 AM edit delete reply

"Any crash you can walk away from is good crash." -Launchpad McQuack

I mean...he's not wrong, but I'm glad our erstwhile hero and murder solver isn't so irritable that she's not into wanton homicide. It would detract from her credibility as a law enforcement agent. :)

Coburn's likely problem is that she's been too focused on her career and is ignorant to, or oblivious of, the understanding of other people. I wouldn't be so quick to judge her despite her aggravating behavior, because she likely has a number of reasons behind why she acts the way she does, even if she isn't aware of them herself.
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